What are you on?

When it comes to mental illness and treatment by way of medication(s) I wish asking what someone is taking wasn’t considered as bad as asking someone what they make or asking an obviously pregnant woman if she is pregnant.  Not only is there too much of a negative stigma surrounding anti-depressants, and anti-psychotics there are many untrue and unfair assumptions and an almost instant labeling of a person on such medications as well.

Because I have always been so open about my struggles with depression long before I started a blog I searched for years for help that worked for me, once I started to blog the emails with “may I ask you what you are taking, what you are on in regards to anti-depressants” started to pour in and I guess up until now because I am asked so much and because it changes rather regularly I have always answered them privately.

Up until early 2003 I will admit that my rage issues where not under any sort of control.  I hit a rage bottom; I could have severely injured someone if just even one piece of glass had flown in a different direction.  This person has never given up on me though, just talked to them the other day. Up until the rage bottom I think I condoned the violence against others as ‘well people used to kick the shit out of me for nothing so what the fuck’, I got in some choice bar fights and have kicked and punched more than one ex-boyfriend.  I have never ever even considered causing damage to anyone’s property and although it is extremely embarrassing to admit this and I know that some people feel I am still capable of physical harm to another person, I am not, those were some of my lowest days.

It was not easy finding a combination of medications to help me learn to control and cope with my temper whilst also combating constant suicidal thoughts.  Will there ever come a day that I do not want to cause physical harm to myself, I do really hope so, but inflicting that pain onto my person still sometimes feels like the only way to release the anger, it is like a trance it isn’t a feeling of pain it is freedom, sure I have to wear a long sleeve shirt for a week or two right now but running that dirty resin covered knife up and down my wrist felt really good at the time.

Even as recently as last year I’ve still been learning the hard way, that many people still find me threatening and that I have to watch how I phrase everything because it wasn’t until very recently that I have learned NOT to lash out first.  I am still working on the not lashing out period bit but I am pretty happy with my not lashing out first progress.

Although I did not hit my rage bottom until 2003, I did become absolutely sick of myself in 1999.  My inability to handle situations without my whole life feeling like it was coming to an end, overreacting to everything, my temper and inability to control it, I could keep friends but not boyfriends although I have never ever suffered delusions the paranoia of having to work with and get along with an office full of people started to become way overwhelming.

To make a long story short, in 1999 I walked into my Doctor’s office and said that she was to get me help now or I was walking out the door and in front of a bus.  I was seen at the out patient clinic at Vancouver General Hospital within three days and was put on my first anti-depressant.  I also tried out group therapy and saw yet another psychologist.  I had no medical coverage at the time and paid for everything myself even the sessions where I pretended I was Matt Damon circa Good Will Hunting I never started to sing but I don’t see much difference between counselors and psychologists except the latter takes your money and says “right”, “ok” and “how does that make you feel” at all the right times or wrong times if you ask me I never found even one I liked enough to be like HERE take my money I believe you CAN make me better! Group therapy; I had to be considered nutso enough to be in the group but all I am going to say about group therapy is ONLY CHILD. Meaning AS IF I gave a fuck about a bunch of strangers and their problems and there were all these rules and I was in my early twenties and still hadn’t seen ANYONE who had even mentioned the word BOUNDARIES yet so group therapy did not work for me and left a bad taste in my mouth.

From 1999 through May 2002 I stayed on Paxil, I was able to hold down a corporate job, live alone, I was doing okay and so I came off Paxil.  Man, the withdrawal off that shit feels about as good as having someone titty twist you but you have nipples being twisted all over your body.  But I did it, I was so proud of myself.  Not even two weeks after I was off completely I was assaulted, and that was the end of that. Now I wasn’t just depressed and really fucking angry because I had to go back on anti-depressants, I suddenly had brutal anxiety.  I was prescribed Clonazepam and we’ve been BFF’s since that very day, it calmed me right on down I was one happy little worker that day. I was put on Remeron because it was one of the only ADs at the time that had little or no sexual side affects and I was a total slut at this time in my life BUT no still means no and this AD made all of my depression symptoms worse.  This was well before pharmaceutical companies got in on the game advising you through your television set that you YES YOU need more than JUST a basic AD.

I finally got off the Remeron shit because, I’ve mentioned briefly in a past post, there was a period where I was almost unrecognizable to my friends I was taking mean negative shit from a guy that even at my lowest no one had known me to take I was put on Effexor where I have stayed except for a very brief time where I tried Zoloft and hated it, but at this time I was also put on a list for a psychiatrist.  Now, it is early 2003 May, right at the time when the guy who I was becoming this retarded ass fuck for dumped me on Georgia Street and said loud enough the people on the other side of the four lanes of city traffic probably heard “and I don’t even want to have sex with you anymore”.  He was supposed to have been my rebound from a three year long distance relationship that ended in September 2002 but it went on a little longer than planned because when one of your mutual friends knocks himself off in the middle of your whatever you have it was kinda hard to end it, or it was for me anyway.

Remember that corporate job I said I was able to hold down? They had a really good medical plan. I’d been seeing an internal in the mean time counselor while I was waiting for the psychiatrist and being dumped on my ass on the street in the corporate core of Vancouver and finally getting in to see the man who is still today my psychiatrist could not have come at a better time.

So after all of that I have stayed on a very low dose of Effexor, Clonazepam came and went over the years until I did end up on it permanently originally helping me with anxious sleep, no basic AD has ever been enough to battle the anxiety I was left with on May 19, 2002. After getting weekly appointments in the middle of the work day, Thursdays at 1:00pm was my original time, I was almost instantly diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder. I did get over that, it has returned more than once but my main diagnosis is severe depression.  My temper still tends to get away from me so for that I also take Seroquel which brings my total up to three different meds at once. They have me by the balls now you try coming off ALL of that. When I have gone against doctor’s orders and went off of Seroquel and turned into a devil horned snapper bitch I realized it worked for me even though I seriously hate it, like I bitch about it in session how much I hate it yet it works for me so I’m basically arguing with myself.  He did at one point take me off the Seroquel because I wouldn’t shut up about how much I hated it, basically it makes me sleepy but like Sleepy Smurf so I sound like there are a few screws missing while I’m passing in and out. I tried out a drug called Risperidone but this drug made me start to lactate so I had to choose, go all Tori Amos and be a wet nurse to farm animals with no mommies or go back on Seroquel, needless to say I went back on the Seroquel.

I’m one of those depressive assholes who likes to be in control of their meds though and I take it too far sometimes and I end up almost dead and that hasn’t been fun for anyone so it is best if I take the prescribed dosages of the three and accept it.  Big Brother would prefer that anyway.

  • http://saltybean.com/ Jen

    Thank you for sharing your meds story so honestly. After years of up and down and up and down and up and down, I was finally diagnosed with a thyroid condition. I was put on meds and this worked for three months, then stopped working, I was retested, my dose was switched, which worked for three months then switched and so on for years.

    Sick of experiencing manic periods + boughts of depression + debilitating fatigue and anxiety, in desperation I ditched my insensitive GP, my endocrinologist, and my psychologist. Now I see a naturopath and an acupuncturist/TCM and am on a very restrictive diet + light therapy + vitamin supplements + exercise + time for self. When all those pieces are in place, all is well.

  • http://moritherapy.org isabella mori

    hey there …

    good for you for talking about your meds. i think it’s important for people to share information about this, and to be open about it. i mean, we don’t have any problems saying that we take coldFX for the snifflies, so why shouldn’t people talk about their psych meds??

    so – let raul or me know if you’re interested in participating in the MentalHealthCamp – see here http://www.moritherapy.org/article/mentalhealthcamp-a-whole-conference-about-mental-health-and-blogging/#comment-637086

  • http://www.talkingtoair.com Air

    Thanks for talking about meds! If mental illness is stigmatized, then psychotropic meds are even MORE stigmatized. I resisted meds for years, to my final detriment. When I hit rock bottom, I finally tried meds. I love benzo’s, but no longer take them because I was having dependency problems (physical dependency, needing to up my dose too often, etc.). Major withdrawal when i came off those. Now I take Seroquel and Luvox. The seroquel makes ms so sleepy, but I’ve tried to come off it, and it is not pretty. Trazodone — I used to take that, too. It is a gentle sleep aid with no addictive effects. I don’t need it now that I take the seroquel.

    Corinna– touch base with Raul and Moritherapy. They are planning a “mental health camp” (a spin-off, full day extension of our NV09 panel, that was way too short). I’m sure you would be a great help to them with that venture.

  • Capegirl

    i have been drug free since 2000. I lost my marlies totally during withdrawal. after i had to work really hard to build a life using my mind as it was. This meant i had to change attitud and perspective and ultimately have learned to treat myself well and that is my stress management tool now. I hope one day i visit here and hear you got off them and are thriving either way seeing you happy would rock whether you need meds or not some people do need and are helped by them i was a zombie. never understood the stigma the world takes pills for everything when needed why not this.

  • http://bex0r.wordpress.com bex0r

    ive been on paxil for 6 years with varying doses (usually higher in the winter as i get SAD pretty awful.) i think the main reason ive been on it so long is the withdrawal process made me try to kill myself twice. its just too painful to get off of… so my doctor told me i might as well resign myself to being on it MY WHOLE LIFE. pretty much around this time i swore i would never return to this doctor and started seeing a reflexologist/herbalist who is convinced she can get me off the paxil with herbs and shit. its been a couple months and im on the lowest dose ive ever taken regularly (less than 20 mg’s.) so far so good.. next month I go down to an even lower dose so we’ll see…. havent felt suicidal at all so far but definitely have been feeling the winter light, so ive been supplimenting my regimen with UV light therapy and its working quite well for me. also changed my diet to a high fibre high protein, no processed sugars/carbs and physically im doing a lot better.

  • http://gusgreeper.com Corinna

    i realized after that I forgot about being on buspirone which was suppposed to help my sex drive, that was tried around the end of 2003 when i met adam and it didn’t work and i’ve also had on and off stints with ativan but i also do not like ativan.

  • http://shihtzustaff.wordpress.com shihtzustaff

    I was started on remeron for anxiety and it turned me into the biggest bitch walking…seriously. It took 4 days to get it out of my system. I have used ativan on and off for years.

    I am now taking trazadone for anxiety and sleep, cymbalta for my generalized anxiety disorder and clonazapam to keep me sane.

  • http://fortheloveofrocks.blogspot.com maja

    That was very informative, thank you. I remember when my ex took zoloft for a while but he had an extremely sweatyside effect from it and it didn’t help his depression anyway, so he switched to something else. I don’t know anyone that zoloft has worked for, when I think about it.

  • Hannah

    I’ve been on effexor for over 5 years. Paxil made me fall asleep everywhere and no name effexor gave me super weird side effects. I’ve been really luck with my mess however I will probably have to take effexor for the rest of my life.

  • http://bumperstickerbuddhas.blogspot.com Jack Smynde

    I forgot all about the lactating!! Oh, man…

    Yeah, people are pretty tight-lipped about the whole thing; whether they’re in therapy, on meds, what their condition(s) is/are. It always feels to me that every time I start something I expect to be part of a group. Like when I had my first kid, I thought all parents would be on the same side as each other, instead of as or more judgmental as every other walk of life. Ditto for some people in therapy or on meds. I’ve only had one or two friends who aren’t in the same boat (like you are, if you don’t mind me lumping us together) with whom I can really talk to about it. There’s not a whole lot of unconditional love or true friends out there, I guess.

  • http://gunson.ca/blog gillian

    Wow, and I thought I had weird drug interactions. Lactating? It’s the immaculate conception drug!

    I’ve been through as long a list as you, I’m sure. I lasted only two weeks on Paxil, though; whatever the hell it was doing, it put me in a coma and I couldn’t function, and spent the next 2 weeks after stopping sleeping about 1 hour a night (body compensating I guess). Zoloft just gave me massive stomach cramps. Prozac made me incapable of staying awake if I was sitting down. Oh, and Celexa gave me the most disturbing dreams.

    The cure can be worse than the disease, methinks. I’m on Welbutrin now and it’s been so fine I can’t be bothered to go off it even though I’m emotionally okay.